DxO Adds Fujifilm X-M5 Support
DxO has added support for the Fujifilm X-M5.
Shipping Soon
DxO has added support for the Fujifilm X-M5.
Shipping Soon
Petapixel reviewed the Fujifilm X-M5. Regarding Autofocus they say:
More reviews below.
The first of Pav SZ looks actually very good in terms of Autofocus.
You can see the X-M5 keeps tracking the subject even when other people enter the frame. It had a few occasions in which the person turned around and it focused on the shoulder instead of the back of the head.
But as we reported and you can see here, also the Sony A1II (which costs $6,500) exhibits the same uncertainty every now and then. So if a $6,500 Sony camera can mistake a shoulder for an eye, then also the $800 X-M5 should be allowed to do that rarely.
Godwin Isaac (video below), was a bit worried about the X-M5 autofocus, given all the autofocus sh*tstorm YouTube is throwing on Fujifilm autofocus. But he says “autofocus is way better than what YouTube is talking about“.
So why is that? Why are so many people happy with the autofocus?
Pav SZ says that if you use it in real life shooting conditions, it will work just fine. But if you set it up for failure in rather tricky and unrealistic test conditions, it might struggle more than in real life use. So that’s his theory.
My position remains unchanged: even in the most ridiculous never to happen absurd and unrealistic test conditions, I want Fujifilm cameras to never fail once. I will always be utterly disappointed if in a nonsense test Fujifilm cameras hunt for a fraction of a second. ;)
Of course I am exaggerating. But the truth is I believe there is still room for improvement, and Fujifilm has to work on it. And I am not kidding here: it’s paramount that they keep working on it. Clean up your code, get the algorithm right. And we have actually shared an article which shows in which areas Fujifilm needs to improve (and can improve, since they got it right with other cameras already):
Even more reviews below.
One of the most prestigious French photography websites, PhotoTrend, has now published its Fujifilm X-M5 review.
I will only highlight what they said about its autofocus.
And yes, they do talk very good about it.
And yes, there are people who told you the X-M5 autofocus is total garbage.
And yes, they based their judgments on 1.5 seconds of video extrapolated from hours of launch video.
And yes, that’s not really a smart way to judge the autofocus.
Why?
Well, look at the Sony A1II.
There have been lots of A1II launch videos, and when I looked at the one of Tony Northrup, I saw the Sony A1II occasionally focusing on hats and shoulders rather than faces and eyes as you can see in this screenshot and this screenshot – video here.
Now I could extract those few seconds of video and go out and claim the Sony A1II struggles to track eyes. But I won’t do that, because it would not be fair towards the Sony A1 II.
It’s better to wait for full reviews with production cameras. And today we have one, from Phototrend. You can trust them or not.
My personal position is: I am curious about what reviewers say, but I will wait for my X-T5 AF boost firmware to make final judgements.
With that said, here is what Phototrend says about the Fujifilm X-M5 autofocus.
Thanks to the X-Processor 5, the Fujifilm X-M5 benefits from the latest autofocus improvements. And we might as well say it: the latter bluffed us several times.
From a technical point of view, the body has an AI-doped hybrid AF, with 425 AF points (and 117 selectable positions). But above all, it takes advantage of the intelligent detection / tracking modes of the subject, already present on the other boxes in the range.
And in the field, the detection and monitoring of the subject are very effective. Humans or animals: the eye is detected instantly, even when the subject occupies only a small place in the frame. A point that portraitists (and lovers of wildlife photography) should appreciate.
In addition, the box always offers modes dedicated to birds and vehicles (trains, cars, planes, motorcycles). Enough to seduce fans from all walks of life. Especially since the detection is extremely effective.
In plain language: the autofocus of the X-M5 is very efficient. In general, the development is carried out without delay. Pumping phenomena are very rare, even in (very) low light. Caution, however, with certain zooms or fixed focal lengths (especially a little old), whose AF motorization can sometimes be less fast.
Finally, note that the number of “false positives” is particularly low. Fujifilm would therefore have corrected the few small problems suffered by the X-S20.
You can read the full review in original French language at phototrend.
To our fellow FR-readers following us from Japan and who purchased the Fujifilm X-M5 there, here is something you have to know.
Fujifilm has disclosed that all Fujifilm X-M5 shipped within Japan will only have two languages built-in: English and Japanese.
And what if you live in Japan but you’d like to have all the menu items of the camera in your native language?
Well, Fujifilm offers a payed “Language Addition Service” that will cost you $35. You can only add one language.
In order to do that, you have to send (or bring) your camera to the Fujifilm Repair Service Center in Toyko or Osaka, pay 5,500 Yen, and then you’ll get it back with the language you asked to be added.
Don’t ask me why it’s like this. It’s the first time I hear about it and I find it makes no sense at all.
The mirrorless digital camera “FUJIFILM X-M5” being released in Japan will only have “Japanese and English” built-in language settings.
Therefore, in consideration of the convenience of foreign customers living in Japan and tourists staying long-term, we will start a “language addition service” from November 28th. By using this service, you can add one language of your choice. Please check here for details of this service and how to apply.
It’s still not easy to find proper autofocus test regarding the Fujifilm X-M5.
So all we have for now are little tidbits here and there, mainly coming from Asian countries, which are traditionally the main market for the X-M (or perviously the X-A) line.
I will share two videos below.
The first is (I think) a Chinese video. Click the play button below to start the video right at the AF section. Here is what we can notice and what the guy said:
The second video comes from Brazil. I share it because the reviewer covers half of his face with the hand, but the X-M5 does not get distracted and keeps focus on the eye. In fact, you can see the eye box jump to the left eye as soon as the right eye is covered by the hand. So at least this issue seems to be solved.
In a third video below we see the AF tracking in video, which does not look very convincing. Or, as the autor of the video, Matt, said: “Personally think [autofocus] it’s not as bad as some people were worried about, but definitely still not perfect.”
First conclusion: it’s better in tracking cats than humans :)
Of course I am kidding. We really do not have many elements in our hands to make a proper judgement. But the Fujifilm X-M5 should ship in about 10 days (November 21 according to stores), so I guess soon enough we will have a much better understanding of its AF performance.
And maybe we will get the promised autofocus firmware update before that, so that we can judge the new AF on our own 5th generation cameras.
After comparing the X-M5 size to the X-E4, some have argued that the X-M5 renders a potential Fujifilm X-E5 redundant.
Why would Fujifilm offer two rangefinder-style cameras that are nearly identical?
I can see their point to some extent. The X-M5 shares the same rangefinder design, is slightly smaller, packs the powerful 5th-gen processor, and is more affordable.
While the X-M5 could certainly pose a challenge to the X-E5 in terms of sales, there are several reasons why the future X-E5 could still be a more attractive option over the X-M5.
For example:
For me, the EVF alone is already a strong reason to choose the Fujifilm X-E5 over the X-M5.
But let’s consider what else Fujifilm could do to further distinguish the X-E5 from the X-M5. Keep in mind, this is purely speculative, not based on any rumors.
If Fujifilm were to implement all of the features mentioned above on the X-E5, we’d be looking at the closest thing to perfection in the X series lineup. ;)
And even if not all of the mentioned features are included, there would still be a strong need for the Fujifilm X-E5, and fortunately for us, it’s set to arrive in 2025.
Feel free to let us know in the comments what you’d like to get on the X-E5 in terms of hardware features.
The Fujifilm X-M5 owner’s manual is now available. You can access it in html here or PDF here.
The Fujiiflm X-M5 is coming with quite some new stuff never available on any other Fujifilm camera before.
A couple of weeks have now passed since the announcement of the Fujifilm X-M5.
And so far the big controversy has not yet received a final answer: how good is the autofocus on the Fujifilm X-M5?
Now a new Fujifilm X-M5 hands-on review has been published by PavSZ (see above).
In his video, he says the X-M5 autofocus is much better than the one on the Fujifilm X-S20.
And when asked about it in the comments to his video, he says multiple times that he shoots also Sony cameras, and that the X-M5 is just as good as Sony in terms of autofocus.
The problem?
Fujifilm has updated the X App software to version 2.2.0 for iOS. Down below are all the details.
What’s New?
First feedback I got from readers: “I tried with my XT4 and [USB image transfer] does not work.” I have not yet tested it on my own gear, but I invite you guy to let us know in the comments if it works on your model.
You can download the latest Fujifilm X App for iOS here and for Android here.
Pal2Tech shared a follow up video to the original Fujifilm X-M5 autofocus performance. You can see it above.
While we can see the Fujifilm X-M5 being better than the X-T5, I confirm what I wrote in pretty much every other article so far: it’s not at Sony and Canon level. Which is why personally I applaud the improved autofocus, but I’ll call myself impressed only when I see it on par with Sony and Canon.
Also, we have to see how much the improved performance over the X-T5 is to attribute to the AF algorithm on the X-M5 (which is in Beta on Pal2Tech’s camera) or it is simply due to the general faster readout speed of the 26MP sensor.
So far the most convincing autofocus demo I saw is the one of Thomas B Jones, with a 2.5 minutes non-stop live eye tracking during a talking head video, and especially when showcasing product mode the transition between product and face is smooth without stepping to acquire focus.
Look, even the toughest Fujifilm AF haters out there show video clips on much much better AF tracking works on X-T4 for example (or on early 5th generation firmware). So while Fujifilm is not at Sony or Canon level, they have already shown that they can do much better than what they are currently offering on the 5th generation cameras.
As I always said: Fujifilm, just downgrade the firmware! You did it in the past with the flawed X-T1 firmware, so you can do it also now.
Anyway, in November the new firmware will drop. We will see and judge there.
If everything goes well, these are the last days in which AF haters can make clicks with Fuji AF hate videos.
On the other hand, if nothing is fixed, FujiRumors will be the first to share tons of AF hate videos like we did here and here.
Just expect us the be balanced and fair in reporting, giving you multiple sources and feedback so you can judge yourself.