Fujifilm X80: X-Trans III Sensor and X-Processor Pro “Too Power Hungry” for Such Small Form Factor

As you know, back in February our sources expected the X80 to be announced by the end of 2017.

However, I started getting reports of delays, and our sources told us an X80 is no longer scheduled for 2017. Everything has been postponed to 2018 (for now).

So why the delay?

A possible answer comes from Gordon from Cameralabs, one of the most respected and professional reviewers out there, who often test pre-production gear and has some great insights into plans of camera manufacturers.

While talking about the possibility of having an X70 successor (the Fujifilm X80) with X-TransIII sensor and X Processor Pro, he said at dpreview here:

“As a professional journalist of over 25 years I have close access to camera designers and manufacturers and when I asked Fuji’s engineers if we would see X-Trans III in an X70 successor, they told me the sensor and processor are too power-hungry for the smaller battery and form factor of the X70.

My personal take on that then is that it would be possible, but the battery life would be too short to be useful. A shame as I’d have liked an ‘X80’ with X-Trans III.”

So what will Fuji do now?

  • Fujifilm might have to think at other solutions such as making changes to the original X70 design to manage heat better and fit in a larger battery. However, that would go against the purpose of the X70 line, to have an ultra-compact APS-C camera.
  • Fujifilm could completely drop the camera line, if they realize too much R&D would be required make X-TransIII and X-Processor work on a compact X80, especially considering that the Fujifilm X70, despite being a little great camera, was a failure for Fujifilm and they might no longer be motivated to keep the series alive.

Thanks a lot for the reader, who send me the link to this 1 month old comment… you guys are great… what I miss, you find it for me :) .

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Fujifilm X80 Postponed to 2018

Fujifilm X80

Back in February 2017, I told you that the Fujifilm X70 will be replaced by the X80 within the end of 2017.

But I have an update for you today…. Fujifilm decided to postpone the launch of the Fujifilm X80 to 2018.

I don’t have any details, and now I’m merely speculating, but to me it looks like Fujifilm is preparing one of their mega-announcements in 2018, with multiple gear to be announced all at the same time.

Fujifilm has also an announcement on October 25, but it should be minor and mainly about Instax.

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Fujifilm Registered TWO Cameras with Bluetooth to Come Soon… Fujifilm X-E3 and… X80 or X-T2S?

Fujifilm has registered two cameras with bluetooth.

We know that the Fujifilm X-E3 will be one of the two cameras. I will now try to understand what the second camera will be, but here on FujiRumors we shared rumors of the Fujifilm X80 and Fujifilm X-T2S in the past… so could be one of those :)

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Fujifilm’s unreleased camera registered with overseas certification bodies
The code name of Fujifilm’s unreleased camera was registered in China MIIT and Bluetooth SIG.

FF 170001
MIIT ID: 2017 DJ 4689
Registration date: July 24, 2017
Digital camera
Wi-Fi · Bluetooth installed
FF 170011
Bluetooth SIG
Posted on: August 28, 2017
Digital camera
Wi-Fi · Bluetooth installed

MIIT

Bluetooth SIG

Two models of Fujifilm’s unreleased cameras were registered as overseas certification bodies. I think that FF 170001 is X – E 3 to be announced soon, but what will be the other model?

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BREAKING RUMOR :: Fujifilm X80 Coming Second Half of 2017

Fujifilm X80

Time to retire (already) for the [shoplink 54269 ebay]Fujifilm X70[/shoplink]. I’m receiving several hints (thanks a lot for your help) that Fujifilm is already working on the Fujifilm X80 and plans to release it in the second half of this year (2017)!

The little Fujifilm X70 was Fujifilm’s first camera featuring a flippy selfie touch screen and was launched along with the X-Pro2 in January 2016. Sadly, the X70 was a failure for Fujifilm and is now already discontinued. The pre-orders were so low, that Fujifilm even lowered its price tag just 4 days after its announcement.

However, it seems that Fujifilm is convinced of the concept (super compact APS-C camera), and will give it a refresh quite soon with the Fujifilm X80.

So how will it look like? I’ll work on it… and if you can help me to find the right path, feel free to contact me via the anonymous rumor box (if you use a nick name, that would be great) or via email at fujirumor@gmail.com (use a fake email if you prefer).

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Which Sensor Would You Like on the Fujifilm X-Pro4, X100V Successor, X-E5 and X-T40 – VOTE NOW

Ok, today it’s my birthday, and I have to apologise to you.

Because, remember when I asked which sensor you’d like Fujifilm to use in future cameras, if the 40MP sensor or the 26MP stacked sensor?

Well, forget about it, and sorry that I wasted your time.

Because Fujifilm managers recently told us that they still see a future in the 26MP X-Trans IV sensor. And also our rumors about the Fujifilm X-S20 featuring the 26MP X-Trans IV sensor confirm that at least one more camera, the X-S20, will get that sensor.

So this kind of requires me to ask for your kindness and time again, and to let you again vote on the survey. But this time I’ll include the option of the X-Trans IV sensor.

Only one camera will get an additional option: the Fujifilm X-Pro4. Because, as I told you recently, I think Fujifilm will continue to experiment with that camera line; experiments that could include also a different type of sensor. But to be clear: it’s all just speculation from my side, not a rumor. Just to be clear and avoid misunderstandings.

So, down below you can vote your favourite sensor for each camera again.

Also, in the video I made today will share what my favourite sensor would be for each camera.

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Dear FUJIFILM, We Decided: Make These 6 X-Mount Lenses Next!

It’s pure sadness.

I mean, if you look at the current X mount lens roadmap, it is just sadness, with only one X mount lens stoically standing all alone trying to keep up excited about the future.

So we decided to help Fujifilm in gathering some ideas, and you guys dropped hundreds of lens suggestions for the future here, which I then summed up in 40 options to vote on here.

Well, here are the results:

TOP 6 LENSES OVERALL:

  1. XF 23mm f/2 Pancake (fan made rendering here)
  2. XF 16-55mm f/2.8 MK II
  3. XF 18mm f/2 MK II
  4. XF 12mm f/1.4
  5. XF 16-35mm f/2
  6. XF 11-30mm f/2.8

There were really a lot of suggestions in the wide angle zoom range. So many, that I decided to give 2 options to vote on, the XF16-35mm f/2 and the XF 11-30mm f/2.8.

But if we were to merger even those two lenses into one single lens, we could get something like the XF 14-30mm f/2.0. In that case, we would have the following result.

  1. XF 14-30mm f/2.0
  2. XF 23mm f/2 Pancake (fan made rendering here)
  3. XF 16-55mm f/2.8 MK II
  4. XF 18mm f/2 MK II
  5. XF 12mm f/1.4
  6. XF 70mm f/2 (fan made rendering here)

TOP 6 PRIMES:

  1. XF 23mm f/2 Pancake
  2. XF 18mm f/2 MK II
  3. XF 12mm f/1.4
  4. XF 70mm f/2
  5. XF 10mm f/2
  6. XF 35mm f/1.2

TOP 6 ZOOMS:

  1. XF 16-55mm f/2.8 MK II
  2. XF 16-35mm f/2
  3. XF 11-30mm f/2.8
  4. XF 16-70mm f/2.8-4
  5. XF 16-135mm f/4
  6. XF 18-55mm f/2.8-4 MK II

And if we were to merge the two lenses as we did above, we would get:

  1. XF 14-30mm f/2.0
  2. XF 16-55mm f/2.8 MK II
  3. XF 16-70mm f/2.8-4
  4. XF 16-135mm f/4
  5. XF 18-55mm f/2.8-4 MK II
  6. XF 23-55mm f/2

CONCLUSIONS
Wide Angle Reality vs Telephoto Dreams

When you go around in forums, you’ll often see people complaining about Fujifilm not offering enough long lenses.

And to a certain degree I agree with you: long primes especially are needed!

But then there is the reality.

And the reality is that the vast majority of Fujifilm shooters simply do not see long lenses as a priority. What they really want is the total opposite: more wide angle zooms and primes.

We have to be clear about this: any of the lenses that made it to the top of the list in our survey would outsell by a large margin any long prime or zoom lens Fuji would launch.

That’s something Fujifilm knows (and has openly declared here).

And yet, there is at least one lens I feel Fujifilm must give us: the (already patented) Fujinon XF 400mm f/4, which made it in the top 15 of our list and fellow FR-readers already made mock-ups of and it is consistently your top wished telephoto lens.

So, even though it did not make the list, I strongly advice Fujifilm to give us a long prime lens.

Fujifilm X-T5

FujiCast Talk with Fujifilm Manager: About X-T5 and X-T5S Possibilities, X-Pro4, X-H2 and X-H2S, Autofocus, Firmware Updates and More

In the lastest Fujicast episode, Kevin and Neale have, among the others, a talk with Fujifilm UK manager Andreas Georghiades recoded live at the House of Photography in London.

Down below you find a summary as well as the full 1+ hour podcast to listen.

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Fujifilm X-T5: Putting Puzzle Pieces Together (based on Fujifilm Manager Statements and Rumors)

I get so many questions about the Fujifilm X-T5!

When will it come? Which features will it have? How much will it cost? What design choices will have Fuji made? Will there be a Fujifilm X-T5 40MP and an X-T5s 26MP stacked? And more!

Well, the time will come when we will talk about the Fujifilm X-T5. I promise you that ;).

But for now, even without (or little) rumors, we can already approximately answer a few of those questions based on statements Fujifilm managers have made.

Disclaimer

No Fujifilm manager has ever mentioned or hinted an X-T5. But there were statements made at X-H2S launch that can help us to understand which direction Fujifilm wants to take with the Fujifilm X-T5. And that’s what we’ve tried to do here: analyze those statements and see what they could mean for the Fujifilm X-T5.

When will the Fujifilm X-T5 come?

During the X summit, the Fujifilm manager said that the 5th generation Fujifilm cameras will begin with the X-H2S followed by the X-H2 to be unveiled in September. These will be the first two cameras with the new platform.

This basically means that the Fujifilm X-T5 with 5th generation goodness will come only after the Fujifilm X-H2 in September.

So while we can’t give a precise date as of yet, we know that it won’t come very soon. The focus now is on the X-H2S and in September on the X-H2.

Only at some point after the X-H2 there will be a Fujifilm X-T5.

When does Fujifilm usually announce new cameras?

Can past Fujifilm announcement give us an indication on when the Fujifilm X-T5 will be announced?

Well, we don’t know. But we know that Fujifilm has preferences when it comes to when to announce new cameras.

So I looked back until 2018 and I’ve checked how many cameras have been announced in which months. Down below are the months ranked from most popular to least popular

  • January: 5 cameras
  • February: 4 cameras
  • September: 4 cameras
  • May: 3 cameras
  • July: 1 camera
  • October: 1 camera
  • March: 0 cameras
  • April: 0 cameras
  • June: 0 cameras
  • August: 0 cameras
  • November: 0 cameras
  • December: 0 cameras

September is booked for the X-H2, so unless Fujifilm is crazy and wants to totally steal the show to the X-H2, they are not going to announce X-T5 a few days after the X-H2. And if you ask me, the same effect would be if Fujifilm was to announce the Fujifilm X-T5 in October. In that case, the X-H2 would probably be about to ship right when the X-T5 would drop and hence potentially hurting X-H2 sales.

November and December have always been ignored by Fujifilm. Probably because too close to the holiday season, where the focus is to sell current stock, maybe facilitated by some Black Friday deals and Christmas deals, which regularly occur during that season. But just because something never happened in the Fuji world, it does not mean there can’t be a first time.

So the next hot date would be January and February 2023. This would allow Fujifilm to bring the camera to the market before the Japanese fiscal year ends (31 March 2023). But also May is a good month for announcements in the Fuji world.

And just for fun, down below is a survey where you can let us know when you believe the X-T5 will be announced.

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How much will Fujifilm X-T5 cost?

Fujifilm told us they are going back to the roots: the Fujifilm X-H line is their flagship and X-T line is the mid-range. What this means is that the Fujifilm X-T5 will cost less than the Fujifilm X-H line. And we also know that the Fujifilm X-H2 40MP will cost less than the Fujifilm X-H2S.

As a reference, here is the launch price of all X-T cameras

  • Fujifilm X-T1 = $1,299
  • Fujifilm X-T2 = $1,599
  • Fujifilm X-T3 = $1,499
  • Fujifilm X-T4 = $1,699

Removed by the burden of being a flagship, the Fujifilm X-T5 could potentially be more affordable than the X-T4 and settle down somewhere between the X-T1 price ($1,299) and X-T4 price ($1,699). The golden middle would be $1,499 (not a rumors, just 100% speculation on my side).

Of course these speculations are for a non-stacked 40MP Fujifilm X-T5.

Will the Fujifilm X-T5 have the same features of X-H line, just packed in Retro-Body?

The clue here comes from Fuji Guy Billy, who has said here that the Fujifilm X-T line is Fuji’s mid-range line.

As such, I don’t expect it to have all the features and power of the Fujifilm X-H2s and Fujifilm X-H2.

Now, I don’t think they will cut on essential features. I mean, it will be a 5th generation camera in its core, with latest sensor and processors. But there might be some cuts elsewhere.

Not a rumor (I have no idea), but for example Fujifilm could go for a dual UHS-II X-T5 only (no CFexpress). This would mean also the video specs would not be as powerful as on the X-H line (no 8K or 4K120p). In this case, also the buffer for bursts shooting would be shorter.

But again, I am really just guessing here. The only thing that we can say for sure based on Billy’s statement is that it won’t be exactly as powerful as the latest X-H cameras. If Fujifilm calls it a mid-range camera, then it simply can’t have all the features of a flagship camera for a lesser price.

Out of curiosity: which features would you be willing to sacrifice on the Fujifilm X-T5 over the X-H2S and the 8K capable X-H2?

Will there be a Fujifilm X-T5 40MP and an X-T5s 26MP stacked?

During the Fujifilm X summit there was a rather critpic statement made by a Japanese Fujifilm manager that most of you guys interpreted as meaning that only the X-H line will get both 5th generation sensor option.

You guys have already voted on what would be your favorite sensor for the X-T5 (but also for the Fujifilm X-Pro4, X-E5, X-S20 & Co). Feel free to check out the results here.

What I can say is that, beyond the vague Fujifilm manager statements, we have received rumors about the Fujifilm X-T5 sensor and shared it here. If accurate, this means it will be a 40MP non-stacked sensor.

What design choices will Fuji make?

There is no Fujifilm statement about this yet, except for the one Fuji Guy Billy made here that the X-T* line will have a “classic” layout. So no PSAM for that line. No surprise here.

As for the rest, the most urgent question of mine is if Fujifilm will insist with the selfie screen, which would 100% guarantee them lots of applause (and great press) all over YouTube. Or if they will have the guts to go against the easy good press and go with the 3 way tilt screen.

I will make it my priority to give you the answer to this question as soon as possible.

It’s Your Time

So, I’ve meticulously collected the Fuji manager statements and tried to make some sense out of them in regards to the Fujifilm X-T5.

But now it’s your time to share your Fujifilm X-T5 thoughts in the comments. Anything goes: wishes, dreams, fears, deal breakers, whatever you want. The comment section is here for you.

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Fujifilm X-T5 to Feature 40MP Non-Stacked Sensor (No 26MP Stacked Version Planed)

It was one of the questions I got most since the X summit in May.

And today it will find an answer.

An answer that comes from a new source, but as you know, if I share it on FujiRumors anyway, it means that I have reasons to trust this source. In my eyes, it is just as reliable as if I’d have been told this from a trusted source.

The rumor is this one:

The Fujifilm X-T5 will come with a 40MP non-stacked sensor, the same one that will be used by the Fujifilm X-H2 HR. Fujiiflm has no plans to release a stacked version of the Fujifilm X-T5, hence no Fujifilm X-T5s.

In a recent survey where we asked you which sensor you’d like in which camera model, you can see that half of you want a 40MP Fujifilm X-T5 and the other half a stacked 26MP Fujifilm X-T5S.

Well, if you are really out for a stacked sensor SLR shaped higher end camera, you might just get the Fujifilm X-H2s at this point as waiting for the stacked sensor Fujifilm X-T5s will be time wasted.

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