27
Jul
2014

“Enter the mirrorless revolution” and “don’t resist the inevitable change that is happening right in front of our eyes”!

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I read more and more stories about Pro’s, who make the big jump to the small X-system, and I’ve collected their thoughts in this post. Some got completely rid of their DSLR, other don’t. Some think DSLR’s are obsolete, others that mirrorless still can’t replace DSLR’s for their needs.

Here it is, a list of links and thoughts. Feel free to check them out and to drop your own two cents in the comments.

FF, DSLR, MF… or Fujifilm?

- Mirrorless photography will change the future at sproutingphotographer: “My predication is that mirrorless photography will take over our future just like SLR’s took over medium format and digital took over film. I predict that mirrorless photography is the next big shift. Consumers and professionals will continue to adopt these mirrorless cameras and the manufactures will continue to improve the technology that goes into them. I predict that the technical follow-through will become irrelevant and will become commonplace. [...] Don’t be a “grumpy” and resist the inevitable change that is happening right in front of our eyes. Instead, be excited by it, embrace it and take advantage of it to breathe new life into our work. Assuming all of this, let’s not forget that even a great photographer doesn’t necessarily mean a successful professional photographer, because we all know that if you want to succeed in this business, you must have a solid foundation in the business of being creative.”

- Review | The Fujifilm XT-1 PART II at leighmiller: “So really anything in the 12 to 16 MP range is more than enough to do my work. It’s not that I don’t appreciate horsepower, but if I can’t use it all what’s the point. I looked beyond the marketing numbers to figure out what works for me and made my switch. Enter the mirrorless revolution. The XT-1 is a 16 MP camera, more than enough for every single kind of job I do. Portraits, Landscapes, Food & Products, Fashion & Beauty. Lately I’ve been doing more video work on a basic level.”

- 5 reasons DSLR’s are obsolete in today’s world by Martin Gillman at inmybag: “1. Because size does NOT matter / 2. Because you cannot afford not to go Mirrorless / 3. Because you need discretion and practicality / 4. Because you just don’t need a mirror anymore / 5. Because the quality IS there

- DSLR vs Mirrorless vs Medium Format at inmybag:

“When I need to Travel very light or for Street-Photography, that’s when the Fuji X-E1 and it’s 35mm f/1.4 jumps in. Great small system which I really like to use. So, when InMyBag.net asked me which is the best system and why my answer was all of them!
However, he’s my thoughts which is the best tools, for which jobs:

Portraiture = Medium Format
Landscape = Medium Format
Street = Mirrorless
General = Mirrorless
Travel = Mirrorless
Studio = Medium Format
Weddings = Mirrorless or DSLR
Wildlife = DSLR
Timelapse = DSLR

- 10 Reasons Why a Pro is Using a Mirrorless Camera for Personal and Paid Jobs at digital-photography-school. In short: 1) Intentional and purposeful photography – 2) More thoughtful photography – 3) Seeing light, tone and mood – 4) Saves time – 5) Low-profile presence – 6) Lighter and smaller  – 7) Being a part of the picture-making process – 8) Improved autofocus – 9) Easier AF refinement – 10) More intimate subject engagement

- Ettventer: “From the day I fell in love with photography, I’ve been a Nikon guy. I’ve had five Nikon DSLRs in the last 3 years (D80, D7000, D700, D3, D800) and I have an entire camera bag for my film Nikon SLR cameras as well. There’s just a beauty in the way a Nikon feels in my hands, and the images I can make with one. [...]  A couple of months ago, Fuji dropped the X-T1. Fuji has been making waves in the photographic community for the last couple of years with their mirrorless cameras. I haven’t considered them because they were either fixed at 35mm (which isn’t my cup of tea), or they were said to be slow and clumsy (X-Pro 1 anyone?). Then the X-T1 showed up. Mirrorless, fast, interchangeable lenses, small, light, cheap, great in low light, amazing lenses, and sexy as hell. How can any photographer NOT be intrigued by such a system? [...] Again, I love my D800. Let me emphasise that. It’s a beautiful, magnificent camera. This isn’t a situation of “I hate the D800, so I’m looking at Fuji”. I’d encourage everyone to buy a D800 if it fits their need. It fits mine and I love it. The Fuji just catches my eye because it’s so small, and producing image quality similar to that of the D800.”

- Fujifilm X-T1 at shotkit: “A new philosophy, a new gamble! What a crazy gamble, to sell all my Nikon gear for a Fujifilm ‘compact’ set up. This is what many may think. However, I don’t regret my choice for a single second. I have carefully considered my decision and am sure of what I’ve done. Using these small Fuji X devices, I ‘ve discovered what I love about photography. Simplicity. A true homecoming, the basic roots of the art form. The size of your camera does not make you a better photographer. Personally, I don’t care what cameras other people use or what they think. For me, only the results count, regardless of the tool. Currently, the Fujifilm X-T1 is the device that best suits my needs as a photographer. Small, lightweight, discreet, fast and efficient in low light. [...] Do I regret selling my Nikon D4? Not for a second!”

- Why I Chose Fujifilm Over Full-Frame at thephoblographer: “Right now, there isn’t a camera in Sony’s system that has the feel of an X-series camera. And, Fujifilm’s the next best thing in terms of design, which was written about quite hilariously and accurately in Zack Arias’ review of the X100s. The X100s obviously is not the X-Pro1, but the attitude is the same. For Zack, the X100s is the best camera he’s ever owned. For me, the X-Pro1 is the best camera I’ve ever owned.”

- APS-C = a ton of advantages at billfortney: “The APS-C lenses are smaller (translate: easier to design and make very sharp because they do not require as much light transmission!)  Size and weight?  Big advantage APS-C, they can be half the size of 35mm sensored bodies and lenses!”

- The Mirrorless Debate at alienskin: “I shoot 95% with a Fuji X-T1 and X-E2. I really thought they would be augmenting my Nikon system, however, the more I use them the more I love them. The main reasons are the size and weight, but, of course, image quality must be there. So how does the Fuji compare? It’s just fantastic, stunning in fact. And, Fuji has the most glass which just happens to be of exceptional quality. The Electronic View Finder (EVF) takes a little getting used to, but the X-T1 has a class leading EVF and it is as close to looking through glass as I’ve seen. One last point, the cost. Typically Mirrorless systems are significantly cheaper than a comparable DSLR system. On the negative side, the battery life is terrible, but batteries are cheap and small, so its not a deal-breaker for me. Now is a good time to jump in, the water is warm!”

- Manuel Pombo: Why I sold my DSLR and switched to Fuji: “I’ve written a short article on why I switched over from Nikon to Fuji. I made the switch last year when I realised that my DSLR was too big for my style of photography (travel and street photography) and I have not looked back since. My website also has travel blogs of Nepal and Thailand as well as plenty of pictures of Dublin, all taken with the X-pro1 and X100S. Would love it if you’d take a look :) The post can be found here at photolographer.”

- Goodbye SLR, Hello Little Viewfinder: The Fujifilm X100s at shawnclover: “I absolutely love this little viewfinder. I won’t really be ditching my Canons anytime soon for things like sports, portraits, and landscapes, but the little Fujifilm X100s is just about everything I could ask for in a compact camera to hit the street with.

- First Event DSLR FREE at matthewhartphotography: “I did it ! I made the jump and I am OK ! [...] So, not only had the change from Nikon to Fuji made me rethink the way I shoot, it put me right back in the crowd where I should be ! It was like going back to my Nikon Fm2 and 50mm lens in the film days. Yes the change from Nikon to Fuji has made me more social! How mad is that … [...] I can’t wait to see what Fuji bring out in the future in the way of Bodies and Lenses.”

- Heather: “We recently wrote an article called ‘Mirrorless Cameras for Professional Work: Where they prevail & where they fail’. Mathieu investigates a number of points we feel all professionals should carefully consider before dropping the DSLR for a mirrorless system.” Read it at mirrorlessons: “Fujifilm is rapidly becoming the most popular mirrorless brand, and the X series certainly attracts more photographers to the idea of switching than any other series out there. I like the system a lot despite its young age. It still lacks some important things like fast and constant aperture zoom lenses or a true TTL wireless flash system, but I believe that very soon the system will fill the gaps. It is the system that currently has the most potential in the professional world.”

-  Bye bye NIKON, Hello FUJIFILM ! at bjornmoerman: “Is the Nikon D800 better than the X-T1? Hard to define what the definition of better is, I guess… Well two things are clear, it weighs double and it costs more than double. [...] To me the D800 had really become a “tripod only camera” [...] Personally I like the smaller form factor. When using longer lenses like the 55-200 Fujinon lens, I tend to use the optional X-T1 battery grip for added stability. [...] THE END OF THE DSLR IS HERE I’ve been vocal about this a few times, but I sincerely believe that by 2020 there will be hardly any new classic DSLR’s being sold.”

- Six months after the change of Nikon DSLR Fuji camera system in original German here (translation): “I would recommend this step – “away from the mirror” – go back! Less is more! Less equipment weight is for me more flexibility when shooting!”

- From DSLR to mirrorless… and back again at nikonrumors by Roger Irwin: “I’ve also tried a Fuji X2. This has very traditional controls, love it. But I tried it with a pancake lens and I noticed that the camera has a limited grip, this would almost certainly be tricky to use with larger lenses. There is of course an SLR like model now, so perhaps that would be better with larger lenses….assuming you had them! Because yes, also Fuji have limited options when it comes to lenses. More options than Sony, but not as good as MFT. Unlike Sony, however, there is no upgrade path to FF, as the Fuji mount will not support it. At the end of the day I began to realize that mirrorless is still very much in it’s infancy, and that the most developed system (Micro Four Thirds) was one that got underway years ago.”

- Why I own Nikon and Fuji camera systems at stanleyleary: “So I find I love Fuji X-E2 for shooting what I call general assignment still photography work great. It does affect your workflow just a bit. The Fuji does take longer to ingest because the file sizes are almost double the Nikon D4 RAW files. Many of the clients that I shoot for are all photographers themselves. Some of them have gone out and bought the Fuji system based on what they saw from my images caught with the Fuji system. To me the Fuji system is like the Leica M series was when I shot that with film. I think for a while Fuji X system for many photographers will be an addition but not a replacement system.”

  • Richard Owen

    I will read some of the folks that talk about their switch. I have also sold all my Nikon DSLR gear and shifted to Fuji. But my switch was different. I was a newspaper shooter for the last decade of my career. If I was still doing news work, I would still be using my pair of Nikon D2H bodies. They just performed. But when retirement/layoff hit and I found no chance of work in the news industry, I decided I did not want to carry the weight. Hopefully, I sold them to “good homes” where they will continue to produce images that excite their new owners. Do I miss my DSLRs? No but I miss the images that all that equipment allowed me to capture during my newspaper career….

  • Boris Juskowiak

    Calm down a bit….the header is overhyped….

    Best and affordable setup imo..no medium format too expensive, bulky despite the pentax 645z….

    d810/nikon ff for every purpose with high resolution…landscape, studio, archi, commercail, fine art, portraiture (esp. due to higher flash sync, more betterflashes, a real flash system, higher shutter speed), architecture due to the offer of tilt and shift lens etc..

    street, travel – just get the ricoh gr (or fuji x100s ;) if your preferred FL is 35mm) if you could live with 28mm and 35 and 50 crops (has a built in mode!), best b&w rendering too…excited on the new gr and fuji x100 t…

    if you need interchangeable lenses more tele or wider while traveling then a fuji x series or m43 cam/setup in addition to the nikon d810 setup if you need the high resolution as well is the way to go in my opinion…

    2 cents…

    • CRB

      new GR? any info?

      • Boris Juskowiak

        hold on brother !
        next spring the successor will be announced for sure…
        the ricoh gr model has a 2-2 1/2 years cycle…;)

        The Ricoh GR is the one of the most underrated cams….sorry that i have to say this on a fuji site….

        I am just more leaning to and getting more keepers with the 28 mm FL than 35mm despite the fact that the 28 is a more exotic FL than a classical/traditional FL as 35 or 50mm truly is!

        • CRB

          I agree…i loved my dead original GRD, nothing comes close in UI, and the camera is from 2004!!!!but i love 35mm eq, so i like the GR crops option…lets wait and see…probably 24mp, and stabilization…who knows, even f1.9? as the GRD4…the lens would be big , but….

    • jarid

      very good recommendations….it is confirmed and recommended from pros too like ming thein he is a very trustworthy pro with a real obejctivity due to the fact that he is not paid/sponsored from any company, cam manufacture in comparison to zack arias, david hobby, scott kelby or others….

      i love my fuji x100s too but i have to say the ricoh gr is awesome too…my friend has one….the wider fl 28mm is better imo due to the fact that you coulkd alwyas crop later but not the other way “uncrop to 28mm”….i am thinking of trading in my fuji x100s for a xe2 or xt1 with the 18 f2 pancake (27mm 35mm equiv.)….but still waiting on some x-pro 2 rumors would love to have the ovf (hybrid solution) so i think i still have to wait and could resist my lust for a wider lens…the wcl is not an viable option or me too bulky and expensive….

    • Steve

      seldom that you get really good recommendations on the web, often just about getting money using links…this is one definetely….

      Thanks Boris I will looking for a ricoh gr or fuji x100s shoudl be enough while traveling…the concetration and limitation to one FL can increase the way your seeing, capturing …more thinking while shooting about your composition, framing etc…

    • nwcs

      My 2 cents… Your advice seems reasonable except it is full of assumptions about what people need and what they’re going after. Also it makes assumptions about your audience. The reality is that most people participating in online forums, and many who do not, buy far above their photographic needs and ability. They outspend for their results. And if someone can’t get great pictures from mirrorless in landscape, studio, portraiture, etc. then they aren’t really trying. Every camera system out there is capable of great pictures in just about every interest area of photography, usually with only minor limitations in certain situations.

  • hexx

    “Mirrorless photography will change the future at sproutingphotographer: “My predication is thatmirrorless photography will take over our future just like SLR’s took over medium format and digital took over film.”

    What? SLR took over medium format? Most of the medium format cameras are in fact SLRs, what was he trying to say? That 135 took over 120/220?

    • CRB

      I agree..as much as i prefer and love my mirrorless cameras (fujifilm included), These posts (regularly if im not mistaken) seem just like a hole of marketing…just like nokia 1020 fashion photography, iphone shooting by a national geographic photographer and etc..companies are investing on products and marketing…

  • EJPB

    The unfortunate thing is that this mirrorless-story may go exactly the same way as bridge cameras did. Quite a few self-proclaimed gurus were also in the beginning of the digital age predicting that DSLRs made no sense anymore, bridges were the plain future. Some companies like Minolta got almost killed by going that way. From a certain point of view, MILC cameras are even nothing less than just a IL-evolution of these cameras. Well: after 15 years the digital market is still holding a lot of DSLRs and models. For someone that has been predicted to die DSLRs are pretty much alive and kicking and that won’t change soon. My experience is futile and unimportant and it runs over both the DSLR and MLIC path, but I’m still under the impression that there is a fair bit of hyping on websites like this one and the ‘toys for boys’-factor drives this market seriously. Look at the publicity, the language in pictures and commercial wording. The fact also that professional photographers are used a kind of ‘pace car’ for launching new models. But the real turn-over between DSLRs and MLICs is not confirmed in facts and numbers. What is a much more ‘visible’ tendency is the fact that even a lot of people in the amateur and vacation-kind of niche stopped using discrete cameras in favor of the Smartphone and Tablets. And we haven’t seen the last of that yet – this is the only true market-changer affecting all other camera markets and according niches. A torpedo that even the major manufacturers didn’t see coming and I doubt that Fuji’s cards on the table are serious enough to cope with that future.

    • hexx

      “What is a much more ‘visible’ tendency is the fact that even a lot of people in the amateur and vacation-kind of niche stopped using discrete cameras in favor of the Smartphone and Tablets” – that’s so so so so true

  • MaxFlight

    Mirrors are a holdover from mechanical cameras. Now the we create photographs with computers ( aka, “cameras”) there is no need for such mechanical devices. Eventually, no electronic cameras will have a moving mirror.

  • jk

    Fuji will fail cause they do not understand their sensor is just plain crap.
    No rational people want it over the Sony A7 or 7R. Fuji sensor cannot resolve minor contrast deals as well as most of Sony or Samsung sensors.

    • Dominic Schulz

      i switched from a sony A7 back to fuji. and yes, the sony (especially with the outstanding 55 1.8 lens) absolutely outclasses the Fuji gear in terms of noise and resolution. plus, the A7 has none of the stupid shortcomings the X-T1 has (for example, the unreliable battery meter, stupid flimsy memory card door that always opens when i put in in the bag and will almost certainly break off in the future, …) …BUT i just love the colors and overall rendition Fuji gives you straight out of cam. I often end up using the jpegs for portrait and wedding work…no need to do anything to them….recently i even did send some files directly to the brides phone…i would never do that with any other camera system. so sometimes its not about the technical aspect, but just the way things work and behave in real life. as a technician, i would pick sony again, as a photographer, fuji all the way, even with the stupid flaws they still have.

      • jk

        you like a Leica guy always talk about love or color or irrational stuffs like that , but never see the fact it is an overpriced crap.
        you do not need to be emotional or sentimental over so-called beautiful Leica look or Fuji look, there is no such thing, you can easily mimic it in ACR or Capture One.

        • Clint

          The image quality from the Fuji’s is more than enough for most people…the problem with the Sony’s is that although they have world class sensors they are poor cameras with no lenses to choose from. To me, Fuji is the better compromise.

          We’ll see what Fuji has up their sleeve, but they are about to release a new camera with a new sensor….meanwhile they still have all the world class lenses. Sony on the other hand….

        • Yup

          The thing is, you don’t have to do anything extra to get the color you want with the X-Trans sensors. I thought the whole “Fuji color” thing was crazy, too, until I started using an X-E1. It consistently offers better, more accurate color (and auto white balance) right out of the camera than my Nikon camera or the Olympus E-M5 I had before.

          Yes, X-trans isn’t necessarily the best at fine details. Yes, it doesn’t have the resolution of a D800 or even a 24 megapixel aps-c camera. But it has tremendous color without any post processing that makes for great raw files. It just isn’t for pixel peepers.

          • EJPB

            Forums are getting more and more populated by self-proclaimed experts but can they do more than just pressing the release button? Common, what is so special about the Fuji colors? Since many years, with the Nikon Picture Control Utility, EVERYTHING is possible with color in a Nikon DSLR, just download your specific settings created behind the computer into the camera and it works like magic. It’s not even so difficult to tweak f.i. a D800 into a camera that blows any other competitor out of the water. I’m not saying Fuji is bad, but it’s certainly not the miracle some think it is, in particular when it comes to software and settings, postprocessing, artifacts… I hardly ever encountered a system that gave me so much complicated worries and issues than Fuji did with the X-series. i don’t see the premium of that, still not, if they have gone wrong in one area it was by not having a standard CFA and the further competence to steer the market in an errorless translation of their RAF’s.

          • nwcs

            Yes, there are many self proclaimed experts. And there isn’t anything magical about Fuji. But there also isn’t in Nikon, Canon, or any other. After a year with a D800 it’s a great camera. I don’t think anyone doubts it. But too many people imply that you aren’t “all that” if you aren’t using a D800 or similar. Total bull crap. The camera doesn’t make a photographer. All this gear superiority syndrome is just sad. Especially since the average person will rarely be able to tell the difference.

      • sghound

        spot on

      • nwcs

        You ever notice how the trolls never show examples of their excellent photography?

    • Antonio

      I suppose you already got your Sony camera by now, so I wonder why you’re loosing your time coming here instead of going out to get those wonderful pictures :)

    • nwcs

      You and ratty mouse should get together sometime. You’d be excellent together.

      • Didiergm

        :)

  • http://the.me/ DanTHEME

    I love mirrorless — but still prefer the crisp clean rendering of an OVF. Add the battery consumption. And nude photography with an EVF?! EVF is great, but not yet where it will be in two or three years down the road, when mirrorless will have killed the traditional pentaprism.

  • slicerx

    DSLR to mirrorless to DSLR. I have been reading many posts lately that revolve around this topic. I have also followed this path. When the Olympus OM-D E-M5 came out, I jumped on it. I enjoyed the images for what they were, but I could always see grain at all ISO levels. I can see this strange grain in everyones photos with Micro Four Thirds sensors. I then tried the X100 (which I still love when wandering around), the Panasonic GX-7 (still horrible grain), the X-T1 (ergonomics getting close to what I love about DSLRs) and now back to a Nikon D810. The image quality in unsurpassed and it does what I need and want (mainly wedding, landscape and street). Ergonomically, none of the other cameras feel comfortable for me. Also, I don’t believe in being a spy when shooting street. It is creepy. I shoot with whatever camera I have and am open and honest about what I capture. Most people who end up approaching me just want to see the shot and get a copy of it so I don’t need to go small. I have just turned 40 so I don’t need to go light (although I didn’t find a Fuji and a set of lenses that light anyway). I can shoot street all day with a D700/800/810 and one 24-70 and I don’t feel tired. Maybe others will get tired, but for ME, I can handle it. And to ME, the image quality is unrivalled. To ME the Nikon range (dslr bodies) are intuitive and easy to use. To ME, I prefer this way of shooting. When mirrorless meets the D810 body, I will switch back.

    • HF

      I second that. I use both, Nikon + Fuji (the noise of the m43 camera was a problem for me, too, furthermore, premium lenses are extremely expensive like the 42/1.5). Nikon is for work (my wife is a professional) and Fuji for leisure. I, too, prefer the size and ergonomics of a DSLR. It better fits in my hands, battery life is great, the flash system is pro level and the weight is not a problem with the G primes at all (28, 35, 50, 85 G); it just works and is reliable. Furthermore, so far there is NO FF mirror less with fast primes available (2.8 zooms, 1.4 and 1.8 primes), Sony only offers one 55/1.8. Fujis advantage is it is the only APSC system with 1.4 primes available and many other good lenses coming. A XT1 is a perfect second body to accompany my FF DSLR.

  • andrewccm

    Unfortunately, my X100s, X-E2 and X-T1 while I love them…they cannot be much of a tool for professional field sports that I am constantly assigned to cover. Mirrorless is nice…but all this sensationalized BS about it completely replacing DSLRs are for a certain segment of the photographer community. There is no way to produce the same images with any of the mirrorless systems in a reasonable real-life manner as I do with my DSLRs. Sure…they can capture some moments during a sporting event…but they couldn’t replace the real tools needed for that job.

    Just my perspective based on my work.

    • worker88

      I have used my X-Pro1 for the last year as my primary camera (fashion and product) and while I do enjoy it, I completely agree.

      The biggest competitor to mirrorless is its own genre and that most are systems that are not a system. How long do I have wait for proper core accessories and expandability? A system isn’t just bodies, lenses and straps.

  • ronin

    Sigh. It’s going on 7 years that we’ve been hearing fans of the companies that tried and failed in the DSLR world (Sony, Olympus, Fuji) declare the death of the DSLR. That meme is getting a little old and tattered.

    I moved to micro 4/3 and got some nice lenses 2-1/2 years ago, thinking per the hype that it would be the ideal compromise. I still use them and think they are very nice, but no longer think they are the ideal compromise. I think APS DSLR was the ideal compromise after all.

    Add to that the very high price of mirrorless- paying more for less- and I’d advise any newcomer to not bother. And even then, if I’m carrying an Olympus or Fuji plus lenses, I’m still carrying a substantial amount of gear… a pound or two is not a huge difference, not for what I give up (speed, performance, resolution, dynamic range, true viewing, battery life…), I’ll not be selling my mirrorless anytime soon, since the cost is sunk, and the results perfectly acceptable. But if I ever had to do it over again, I would do things differently.

    • junyo

      No technology ever dies. Leica still makes rangefinders. People still shoot film. Companies still make horse drawn carriages. So the DSLR camera format will never ‘die’. The question is will it be the predominate format for future enthusiast/professional photographers.

      And the answer is ‘no’. Stomp your feet and gnash your teeth against progress, but DSLRs are running into the core problem of all technology; a better solution to the problem they were designed to solve has come along. The entire reason for the complicated arrangement of mirrors and prisms was to solve the issue of WYSIWYG composition; that whole complicated arrangement isn’t required anymore, since I can now position the viewfinder anywhere and get TTL composition. I can lower the parts count of the device and sell it for the same money. And I can make the viewfinder closer to truly ‘what you see is what you get’ than I ever could with an optical viewfinder.

      To say, “well the change over hasn’t happened in 7 years, so it’s not going to happen” is shortsighted. It was more than 20 years after the invention of the digital sensor that the sea change of widespread professional and consumer adoption came, so anyone that’s bought into mirrorless already is really an early adopter – if you don’t understand that, disappointment is understandable. The technology is just now approaching an acceptable level of performance parity with DSLRs. 15 years from now, buying an actual DSLR with a moving flapping mirror will be the domain of old men and hipsters.

      • ronin

        Here we go again with that “tomorrow the world!!” hype.

        As mentioned, I’m happy with mirrorless, and happy with DSLR. It’s some mirrorless people who keep stamping their feet, which must be very tired by now. The notion that “mirrorless is very very close” has been a notion for almost 7 years and is based on the flawed and desperate hope that all other technology stands still.

        PS: I never hear DSLR people say things like, reflex viewing is obviously the future and taking over. They aren’t trying to prove anything. They don’t even know what mirrorless is. They are happy with their cameras, and Canon and Nikon are happy that they, as opposed to any mirrorless-only camera units, are actually profitable.

        • junyo

          You can feel however you’d like to feel. I’m merely laying out the reasons why it’s a sensible evolution. I’ve shot SLRs, TLRs, DSLRs, and now mirrorless. I’m agnostic about the technology, just laying out an objective argument. Thom Hogan’s not a huge fan of mirrorless and he’s predicting basically the same thing.

          And I pretty much hear DSLR people constantly asserting that DSLRs will never go away, that any camera without an OVF is a toy, that no MILC can match the DR of an SLR (huh?). A lot of them troll the comments here; so I’m not sure where this idea that ‘DSLR people don’t feel that they have anything to prove’ comes from. The fact that you’re here – on a web site about mirroless cameras – as opposed to basking in the simple happiness of your DSLR, pretty much disproves that statement.

          • John H

            Thom Hogan also believes — and rightly so — that the optimal system for most serious photographers are APS-C DSLRs. The reason the sector has ground to a halt has to do more with the lack of pro-quality lenses and innovative bodies over the past few years. He is not suggesting that MILCs are taking over, only that they WILL if Nikon and Canon abandon the APS-C DSLR any more than they already have.

  • fm

    I’ve been a fan of Fuji and have been able to get great images from the X20. It manages about 75% of what I’d like to do with a camera (I’m not a pro photographer, as one might imagine, given my choice of equipment). What’s mostly missing is high ISO/low light performance, which I need fairly often. But the Fuji systems are just too expensive. So I don’t know what my next camera will be. When I recently had to recommend an inexpensive device to someone for field research, I suggested the Canon T5i with 18-135mm lens. That’s a lot of camera for the money, to be frank.

    • John H

      Tripods are cheap. Use one for your low light work.

      • fm

        Have a good one. Useful for, for example night shots of urbanscapes, but not of people performing music.

  • alex

    Just 2 things!
    No mirrorless can reach the DR of d800.
    the buttons of x-t1 sre absolut shit!
    My equipment is fuji I am fine with it but people writing on their blogs and being published here might be more objective and keep in mind that fuji wont call them straight.
    I see many “photographers” spit on nikon/canon thinking this will make them famouse…

    • alba63

      There is no reason mirrorless should not have the same DR, it is the same sensor technology.

      • PGi

        Actually the mirrorless cameras are better than so called DSLRs in terms of resolution and sheer image quality because they do not have silly loud mirror and thus better more modern liberal lens and optical design

    • dave

      What are you talking about? The A7R has the same DR as the D800.

      • PGi

        No the a7r has BETTER sensor, the d800 is an old dated old mans toy

  • stark

    Doesn’t make sense to put “medium format” in there. It’s a sensor size and can also be DSLR or mirrorless. Mirrorless MF will undoubtedly come in the near future.

  • Kalle

    You need different cameras even if you are not pro. It would be nice to have same battery in all top models (at least X Pro something, X100 something and XT something).

  • alba63

    I have zero doubt that mirrorless is the future. It is 100% obvious. Some say “it has been predicted since years and yet DSLR still sell more units” etc., but DSLRs have been around 10 years only, digital photography is hardly 15 years old. Serious mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras are around no more than 5 years.
    Where will camera tech be in 10, 15, 20 years? Mirrorless of course. Nothing else makes sense. DSLRs are too big & too heavy and too loud.
    The thing is, Nikon and Canon have their huge DSLR legacy to defend, and no viable mirrorles strategy so far. I wonder how they will want to compete anytime soon… I predict one of them will go under within 15 years. Probably Nikon.

    • ronin

      The whole fake dichotomy of “mirrorless vs DSLR” is overblown interweb hype. These are all just cameras, far more similar than different.

      Too bad Nikon and Canon, who have “no viable mirrorles strategy so far” produce mirrorless cameras that outsell Olympus, Panasonic, and especially Fuji in most markets.

    • PGi

      Mostly agreed but it won’t be fuji it will be Sony or Samsung that will finally put canon Nikon into Tokyo camera museum camera coffins.

      • alba63

        Yes, possible, Fuji is not a mass anufacturer, although their X-T1 is quite successful. Sony on the other hand makes a lot of market entries but doesn’t pursue them with enough energy and consequence. They still have a slimmer and less excellent lens program for their Nex- and a7 line after all those years, than Fuji has after less than 2,5 years. At the point where Canon or Nikon strart to really tank, they will likely bring some more serious mirrorless system, question is wether this will be enough… Canon makes other stuff than just photo, Nikon is quite dependant on it. Fuji not so much…

  • Marc Sadowski

    I love the Fuji cameras. I use my X-E2 and X100 more and more in my professional work.

    However, there are still two things that still need to happen.
    1. AF – it’s good and getting better, but I need it to lock on as fast as possible. And this is for just fast moments in weddings. I can only imagine the need sports photographers need.
    2. A good speed light.

    • PGi

      Is the 16mp odd colored poor quality crop sensor good enough for your pro work?

  • Carlos

    I’m fed-up with waiting for X-Pro 2, will go back to DSLR for my 2nd camera, OVF, fast, reliable. D800 is not a comparison to Fuji X, D7200/5300 more so.

  • Chuck

    I wouldn’t take much advice from someone who’s had 5 camera bodies in 3 years. Take it easy, bro. Try using them a few months before jumping on to the newest, latest and greatest.

  • PGi

    It would have to be mirrorless but not the fuji, it would be the Sony and it is obvious that most of pros at getdpi fora switching to Sony a7r from their bulky ugly nikon.

  • Not Convinced

    Is anyone else getting the feeling that the majority of these photographers publish a raving post about a Fuji camera with a couple of photos, and then….. the Fuji camera is never spoken of ever again nor do they have any photos to show from it?

    If Fujifilm give me a free camera body and lens I might also write a similar post.

  • alba63

    So, rattymouse, instead of just going with a nice, heavy and cheap DSLR, why do you spend week after week with your tiring rants on all Fuji related forums over the world? It is a bit ridiculous.

    You obviously don’t like the mirrorless offerings, so why don’t you just leave it and get on with your live? It would make everyone relay, specially yourself… Or is ranting just your real hobby rather than photography?